The Van Der Linde gang used to steal from the rich and give back to the poor. The gang's gradual decline is never more visible than their partnership with Leopold Strauss. Strauss gives terrible loans to folk with barely any money, and when they can’t pay, Arthur Morgan appears on collections duty. Without a doubt though the gang’s first step to becoming lost was doing business with Mr. Stra

When collecting debt money owed from Mr. Downes, it ultimately leads to the father's untimely passing. This is done either by Arthur repeatedly beating the man and killing him on the spot or him succumbing to his injuries later. Arthur then comes back to the family and has quite an interesting conversation with Mrs. Dow

Arthur in a heated conversation with Dutch before the final train job, "insists" Dutch let John and his family go among others. Something about the word "insists" has been a trigger word for Dutch. This statement causes him to stare blindly and ask two questions, "John?" "Insist?" This leads to Arthur answering "Yeah, Insi

The last train job, the final heist of them all. In the heat of the robbery, John is shot, and Arthur witnesses him fall backward off the train. The player at this point has no idea what is happening to John or how he makes it back. They know he has to be alive for the events of original Red Dead Redemption to take place, but how does he make it back? Possibly a very cool Downloadable Content update for Red Dead Redemption 2 would be this mission, and it would answer a lot of questions regarding John’s survi

He decided to follow his father's path of criminal activity, rather than better himself as his mother probably would have wanted for him. It leaves fans questioning his decision-making skills and a need to know more about his final decision to join a band of outl

Mr. Macquire is a good man to have in camp. He uplifts camp spirits upon his return and is loyal to the bitter end. More than anything, Sean just wants to ride with Arthur and John Marston on whatever scheme they've concocted. He cares more for fun than anything else, and his idea of fun is potentially killing people. That lack of sensitivity and awareness in regard to his actions really speaks towards his sense of ho

Josiah simply has no loyalty to anyone. He repeatedly abandons the gang for long periods of time and returns when he sees fit. Arthur Morgan states while riding with Charles Smith that Trelawny "would sell his own sister to save a train fare." Josiah Trelawny is many things, but an honorable man he is

Arthur was a loyal man, but why couldn't he see the madness in front of his eyes? He still views Dutch as the man who raised him and refuses to raise a hand against him, which only leads to problems for the Marston family in the original Red Dead G

Arthur was raised by Dutch and Hosea when he was fifteen, so who taught him how to draw? It can be assumed Hosea taught him to write if he hadn't known how to already, but no one in his life was artistically incli

Javier is a very loyal man, and that is what got him to the better half of this list. That same loyalty, though, is his downfall. Dutch found Javier stealing chickens and saved him. Javier never forgot this, leading to absolute blind loyalty for Dutch. If any gang member second guesses Dutch’s orders, Javier takes offense. Upon news of Micah’s betrayal, Javier draws his gun on both Arthur and John. In the end, he chose to go down a dishonorable path with dishonorable

John doesn’t respond with the most definitive answer and Arthur continues to tell him how broken their system has become. That the gang no longer works, and that he’s seeing things more clearly. They didn’t change but Dutch

During one particular fishing trip, they are ambushed by Agent Milton of the Pinkerton Detective Agency. After a series of light insults, Milton reveals he killed former Van Der Linde gang member Mac Callander, to which Arthur responds with an icy chill saying this quote. It's enough to stop guns from being drawn, but keep the tension at an all-time h

Dutch starts Red Dead Redemption 2 in an honorable light, even after the Blackwater Massacre. His long-time gang members try and defend his actions, but soon enough his true character comes to light. It is quickly revealed that Dutch killed a Blackwater woman in terrible fashion. find out this here deed is followed up with his brutal drowning of Angelo Bronte, and merciless choking of a woman in Guarma. Dutch might have once been an honorable man, but by the end of Red Dead Redemption 2 , the player will realize just the kind of man he

Calm and collected, Dutch is an intelligent individual with violent outbursts. He rationalizes his wrongdoings with nonsensical idealisms. As the antagonist of Red Dead Redemption and a central character of Red Dead Redemption 2 , Dutch van der Linde is one of the series best charact

When telling John to leave when the time comes, Arthur and John go back and forth over whether its right or not to leave. Arthur promptly tells him that loyalty is all he ever knew, but follows this up by saying "but not anymore Jo